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LARRY CAMPBELL INTERVIEW #2
Tape 2 Side A
This is an :interview with Larry Campbell in his home.
The :interview is
made by Brenda Hicks with the Oral History Project at Appalachian State University.
Q:
Excuse me.
A:
This fell ow, he's a staunch, active man with a fundamentalist religion .
took a little trip and he happened to go on weekends .
know, that place is Scrlom and Gomorah."
wife was turned to
sal~
Fontana Village, he'd wipe 'em out.
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He told me, he said, "Y:m
He said, you know, said, "Whc.n Lot's
God said if he could find just one person down there
that was righteous he wouldn't destroy it.
righteous person.
He
I said,
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Well, boy if he 'd take a good look at
'Cause he said, "I know Di.ere wasn't one
"What do you mean?
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He said,
"Well, they were
dancin' and singin' and pickin' guitars and playing fiddl es and drinking beer,"
and, you know, really, probably doing less harm to their fellow man, and probably less harm to the atmosphere and less harm to God's earth than this guy
did with his growly ol' smokey car dri ving over there and back and passing
judgement on everybody.
make a quick buck.
there's the contrast .
Because this fellow would develop anything if he'd
He's got plenty of bucks ... quick bucks.
But now .... see
The real paradox of it is, and mountain culture and mountain
religi©Dl is full of this, paradoxes, is that your finest and purest form of mountain
music which is a descendant of your Scottish bagpipe tradition .
Q:
Yeah, you can hear it ....
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A:
In New England you have your Irish type of music.
Brothers Four, Kingston Trio, that's an Irish rhythm.
Irish we call it.
like it.
It's a New England
It's good music and it's cultural and it's pure, but I don't
I'm not an Irishman, I 'm not a Scotsman.
grass it's got your Scottish blend in it.
here.
Pete Seagar, The
If you listen to your blue-
You can hear it.
I've got reams of it
I play it and I sing it and I buy it and listen to it, be caas e it's a part
of the southern Appalachian culture that I'm a part of.
I think it's the purest
art form there is around today and then a lot of people who have commercialized
it and changed it a little and taken advantage of it, but it's still good.
in your (Brush Arbor) camp meeting days.
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started
This is where larger numbers of
people began to hear and appreciate their music as it had developed, when it,
from the time it first came into the mountains ..... there's time . . ..
Q:
Was it existing before as the original ballads themselves, because the melodies
are often taken to make gospel?
A:
Well, a lot of them were.
and Germany.
marches and he fights .
dance.
do it .
Your Scotsman, he drinks, sings, and he dances and he
He's just that way.
He's more of a primitive beast
A Scotsman loves to fight and he loves to sing and he loves to
An Englishman had rather sit. on his can and let, and watch the Scotsman
He's just that way.
ain music in there.
Larger numbers of people started hearing your mount-
Bruoh Arbor camp meetings and revivals than begins to
start.
Q:
They came from England
Mostly from England and northern Great Britain, and Scotland.
Your Englishman drinks.
or something.
A lot of them were.
Do you use the instruments as part of the ...... ?
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A:
Yeah
whatsoever
yeah, they would sing.
They would sing a lot with no
because they had none.
You know, just have a tune (hyster) get
up and ahant a S-lf)ng and it would usually be done antiphonally.
your ancient Hebrew tradition.
would sing a line.
instruments
Very much like
The leade r would sing a line, the congregation
Tune hyster would say the next line or the next ... and a
lot of our beautiful old gospel ballads got started this way.
weren't bad, but t hen others had rotten theology on them.
Some of them
They sang of the
worldly, just this bloody, no good kind of thinking, you know, it just puts God
and Man down at the same time. And it presumes to make God a beast and man
just a snh·elling idiot.
music began, you know.
But this is where you're real bluegrass mountain string
Somebody would come along and they'd say, "Hey, Uncle
Joe's got a fiddle in the wagon.
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So, they found out by George, it would be a
little livilier and if Uncle Joe would lead the music, keep us on pitch with his fiddle.
Or somebody would say,
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Well, Uncle Dave's got his banjo, or his quitar."
And they'd, this was very well approved.
But then as times come by and I've
watched people go through this whole thing within a lifetime.
of Baptist ministers in this county (coughs).
Excuse me.
We have a couple
That were at one tinre
tremendous musicians, but they got saved and quit.
Q: Well, I've experienced that before.
There were, at Union Grove.
A: I've seen 'em go thr:ough it within a lifetime not just within a couple of generations, as history goes by, but within one person's life.
this association of music, secular music.
They would begin to draw
Fiddles and guitars and banjos with
hard drinking, card playing, and loose women, and partying.
Partying was bad,
it's bad news. That's why this fella reacted so badly to the folk dances they have
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every Friday and Saturday night at the big lodge at Fontana Village, NC.
love to have time to go over.
And I'd
In fact, I've been there years ago.
Q: They're just big, big, big mass s q uare dancing.
A: Just big barn dance.
dance.
And somebody's gonna get drunk.
Somebody's gonna
You know somebody's gonna use a little foul language occassionally.
If
guys are still as red-blooded as they were when I was seventeen to twenty-one,
they're gonna fist-fight once in a while.
But if anybody there has any talent at all,
there's going to be som e tremendous music and some tremendous fellowship and the
art of dancing and performing and being together with a low degree of anxiety and
hostility which people today, ah.. • .•....
Q: Yeah.
A: That's going to take place.
People are better for it.
I' ve seen this happen.
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pe rs·on begins to associate card playing.. hard drinking, loose women with picking
and singing.
They wouldn't get caught dead in a place where this occurs.
I get it.
Even some people among the Lutheran congregation that I serve, get a little upset
when they hear that I'm again playing with a bluegrass . band.
Look around you, you'll
see that I've played a few .
Q: Yeah.
A: Still do. occasionally.
If I had the opportunity right now, I'd hit the road again .
I'd play every opportunity I could because I like it.
that I have ..•. I can do.
Q: Yeah.
It's creative and it's an art form
Besides there· 1 s money in it once in a while.
(Laughter)
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A: But ah .....
Q: But it's fun.
I mean it draws you.
A: Eventually ... Sure it's fun.
It's a gift that God gives us you know that we can,
that we can maybe make harmonious sounds that inspire or soothe or challenge or
anything.
Or tell a tale.
Our best history, always our best histony since mankind has
learned to put anything down, has still been our oral history.
legends and in our music.
Most of that is our
Most of our good legends were music first.
You know,
somebody would hear a ballad and they'd say, "Grandpa what does that song mean?
He says, "Well, I'll tell you her.e's what my grandpa told me.
c omes first.
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So, you see the music
Man, you take man's music away from him and he'll die.
what's happened to a lot of people emotionally and spiritually.
areas has taken man's music away from him.
A social enunch.
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This is exactly
The church, in some
They just made a eunuch out of him.
He's no good to anybody.
Q: This, well, how does he, what is the Lutheran emotionalisni all about?
We 've
been talking about fundamentalism?
A: Okay.
Q: . • . • . • .
A:
emoti~nal
conflict.
Lutheran emotions, usually,
I don't know how to put it .
when you pep up their servLce too much.
Lutherans get emotional
Their worship service.
Lutherans get
emotion al when the preaching is ·less educational and more emotional.
They don't
like, they want their worship to be a form of learning and growing experience for 'em.
Now this is a painful experience.
Growing is p a inful.
I think Paul said it, you know,
he told his one group of his Christians one time he said, "It's time to stop eating
milksop and start seting steak.
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He said , "You've got some teeth now; grow up.
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"Eat some solid food. " So he gave it to them.
in Christian growth.
This has happened day after day
You run into problems when you try to get people to grow.
Most of the time they do grow.
They they appreciate the experience of being helped
to grow by the pastor or the preacher.
body else in the mountains do.
They don't like change any more than any-
If I change things, I have to be very subtle about it
and I can't do it suddenly or they get emotional.
the evangelical point of view is so exciting.
of all things.
All good things at least.
Their theology is emotional in that
You know, that God is the prime mover
God loved us first .
That we don't have to
make a decision for Christ, he decided he loved us . He came for us; we didn't send
for him.
We'd have never been able to do it.
We don't particularly have a lot of
emotionism in our worship or in our everyday practice .
Lutherans love music.
They love strings in the church as well as they love fifty thousand dollar pipe organs.
They love children singing .
They love it when I play my guitar and sing.
it very often 'cause I have a very expensive guitar and a bad knee .
I'll fall down and break it.
I don't do
I'm always afraid
The one thing that they detest is a family reunion.
have those in the summer or at homecoming.
We
Someone who is no longer a member
of our church comes back for homecoming to bring with them their gospel group
frorn their church.
songs for us .
in those songs .
They get up in the afternoon after dinner and sing some gospel
Most of my people get DP and walk out.
I feel like they have grown a lot .
theologically speaking mountain gospel songs.
a few now and then.
They can 't abide the theology
Now there are some good solid
I try to collect those and I try to sing
I don't know too many of them well enough to perrorm them but
when I have one and know it and I can get the words to it.
where it came from
heard it first.
I begin to try to find out
who wrote it, who performed it professionally, and where I
Try to figure out, trace it back because I want to know who had an
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evangelical theology to write a song that was not a failure oriented or other worldly
oriented with this division of soul and body that confuses people so much.
you know there is no such, God redeemed the whole man.
he redeemd us now.
Because
This is what he said and
A redeemed person is one who can live in the world and not be
affected or not be completely ruled by the world and can address himself to the wrongs
in the world and say,
"In the name of God this has to stop." You know, if we'-re
speaking for Christ, just as He cleaned out the temple.
that were unpopular but He said
He did a lot of other things
"Things have to change, I am here." We have to
continue to say, "He is here, this has to change." You know these people have to
not be hurt anymore, not be kicked around anymore.
This system is wrong.
This land must stop being abused.
We ' ve got to get into politics and change it .
Q: I'd love to hear some stories from the church.
Anything that comes to mind that
illustrates a bit of what you were singing.
A: Well, I thought maybe a good illustration is the road that we built from 105 up to
the church.
There was a road and it's on the state maps .
For seven or eight years
we tried to get tire state to fix it, and I understand before I came they tried for three
years to try to get the state to improve that road . ...
Q: Is that the Clark's Creek Road?
A: Clark's Creek Road .
It was a wagon road.
A big path.
portant years ago because this highway hadn't been here.
ed , winding road that was eventually paved.
tried again to get it fixed .
by the authorities.
It didn 't seem to be im-
It was just a narrow, crook-
In the fifties this road was built and they
They were just ignored.
They were just put on extension
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Q: This is the church itself that was trying to do this?
A: Yes . Well, the church was ramrodding a neighorhood effort to get it done .
They
didn 't particularly want to help create an advantage for a Lutheran church, the Baptists didn't and this is a Baptist neighborhood.
E v en though that church had refused to
die for a hundred and twenty years . So I tried after I came and I got no results.
I
drove to Raliegh on numerous occasions, and had audiences with the highway, chairman of the highway commission.
I went to Wilkesboro and talked to division engineers,
divisions eommissioners and all that.
discourteously in some cases .
of names.
I was writing letters.
I had petitions with hundreds
I would get other people to write letters, people pretty high up who shared
our point of view.
them.
I was treated just, well maybe a little more
Nothing happened .
So, I warned them, the seventh year I warned
I said, "Next year there will be a road built.
You people build for these
peojxie up here . " About eighteen families just on top of the mountain and all together
fifty-t\'\O families depended on it.
mail needed to cross there.
The
It's going all the way around and up the mountain and
backtracking for miles and miles .
across that way.
Plus the church, and not just my church .
The mail needed to go, school bus e s needed to go
They were doing like the mail, going all the way around the mountain
coming up the other side and backtracking.
Very dangerous the north side, instead of
using the south side where the sun shines because the snow wouldn't be melting. The r e
were two churches that needed to depend on it . N ot just mine.
A Seventh Day Ad-
ventist Church and a small Baptist Church. A lot of people needed to get in and out
to the doctor.
A lot of young men who would do better and who are getting discouraged
and getting ready to sell their propert y and move
ou~
which is the name of the game .
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They would rather do that than stay and try to find employment here because they'd
miss work three or four days a week in the winter time.
They couldn' t get out until
noon and then maybe had to walk bake in becuase they just couldn't get a car to go
up there.
So, I said, "Yot.U ll build it or I'll build it.
of the next year, we still hadn't heard anything.
We'll build it."
So, in February
During that month I had a funeral.
The funeral was for an old man who was very popular, Yery well loved and had many
kin folks.
We had two hundred cars stuck on both sides of that mountain up to the
bumpers.
We called the state to get a truck load of gravel or two and a motorgrader
in there to push the mud and sand and some left over snow drifts kind of off the road .
Right after that came a quick thaw.
It was frozen and everything was fine.
came a quick thaw the day of the funeral.
The motor grader got stuck.
a bulldozer after that and the bulldozer got stuck.
There
They sent
Then two dump trucks.
Well, I
had four-wheel drive with chains on all four wheels and I knew where the rocks were
so I stayed on the rocks and out of the mud and managed to get up there.
We had the
funeral with a lot of people who, people with heart trouble having to walk a quarter of
a mile with mud up to their knees just tramping through the slop.
and it started freezing.
Well, all those deep ruts that we ' d cut that day froze in the
road and it was just an impossible winter .
meeting in the church.
Then it turned cold
In Februa ry, we called a big community
Most of the congregation was there, a large nunber of people
who were not members , including a couple of influential people from the other denominations who didn't even live in the community but had a little bit of clout with some
politicians, heard that we had called this meeting to organize a private, non-profit
corporation to raise funds to build that
hay too, politically.
road~
They wanted in on it.
fir'st said to go ahead.
Now, these guys wanted to make a little
So, the way it came about was the state
Well, I proved that it was a state road for it was on the map.
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When I did they said, "You can't touch it or we'll sue you." I said you mean that you'd
like to get us in an open courtroom, an open public court, and sue a group of poor,
low-income, mountain people for building a road with private money, their own money,
that is a state road that you'd refused to fix for us.
I said if there's enough emotion
and enough people to fix it, then there must be a justification for you to fix it.
These
people have paid taxes for three generations and you won't do anything for them.
they had to go back and have their little caucus to find out what to do about that.
cause they had threatened one and I had called their biuff.
Well,
Be-
In the meantime, I'd tried
to communicate with the govenor all winter and he refused to communicate.
Q: What year was this?
A: It was seventy, sixty-nine or weventy.
Somebody had told him that I was trying to
pull some kind of a little shinanigan to make a hero of myself and make some money,
or maybe get into politics and I needed to have an issue.
politics.
people.
I didn't need an issue.
Well, I had already been in
Everybody... I had been writing letters to a lot of
An old politician told me not to send letters tdl people and to write what I was
doing on a piece of paper.
and where and why.
Just type it out under date line.
Put down who, what, when,
Then at the top of the page put press release and date line it.
That's news, and papers will print it.
pape r s aren't allowed to do that.
If you write a letter, that's campaigning and
They won't do it. ff it.' s news they'll pr int, because
that's their job tb report what's happening.
If you write it down and date line it , that's
what's happening and they'll print it no matter what it is . As long as it isn't profane
or obscene.
So, I star ted sendJ g out press releases and before long people started
calling me.
It was editors and said, "Hey, this sounds good. " So, within about five
or six weeks, I had six major newspapers, three television stations and two FM radio
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stations came and got on the band wagon and wanted every line of copy I would run
out and it came right out of this room.
Right here in fact, somewhere here's a big
box with the whole, with everything that happened.
The other siae, the highway
officials, started to campaign against me.
Q: What was their objection to building the road anyway?
A: Didn't want to spend money where it wouldn't be to any advantage to them or any
of their associates.
I found out in my research that during a term in the state legis-
lature by a local man, during the time some local people kept campaigning until they
had $39, 000 allocated in the late forties to rebuild Clark Creek Road from Foscoe
to Valle Crucis, all the way across.
Nothing happened, the money disappeared.
same year another road in the county was upgraded and paved.
large tract of land.
That
Along that road was a
That fellow in the state legislature from Boone, who happened to
be a real estate dealer too, owned it.
I found out a lot of things like that when I was
reae arching.
Q:
Well, now I understand what you're talking about in that other tape about roads and ...
there are incredible political thing ...
A: Maybe, that'll add some light to that.
Well, this fight went on this fight went on
until June and I was never so suprised at how many people turned on me and my p·e arile.
Some of my people turned on me.
I found out they were under tremendous pressure
from their employers that were golf playing buddies with some road commissioners
and engineers, or their wives were bridge playing partners with the wives of road
engineers and commissioners.
it was fish or cut bait.
All of a sudden, everybody was push and shove and
I got a lot of pressure indirectly put on me along that line, and
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it didn't bother me
because the first time we had a meeting, I made a little speech
and I said. "I'm saying this to you all, but it's actually addressed to the governor, "
and I was making a tape.
lease.
The tape was later transcribed and put into the press re-
I said, "We'll have a road by next year this time or I'll be in jail." I just
told them, I said, "I fully intend to see that you people have a road, but only if you'll
stick together and sti ck with me." I said, "None of you can do it by yourself, but all
of you together can do it. " I said, "Our cause is good, it's honest, we've brought to
it our integrity and our honorable intentions .
Nobody will make any money.
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I said,
" We'll have a good bookkeeping sys t em, a good auditing system so that any money that
comes in will be taken good care of and if any's left over we'll see that i s goes to charity, because it has to ... • "
Q: This is your corporation, in othe r ... • you 're doing .
A: This little corportation.
Well, it started getting on the
wi~e
ser vices and some
fellows in Raleigh who were always r eporters at the radio, television. and .... .. . .
Wednesday afternoon conferences of Governor Scott, who was a friend of mine, until
that point. He and these guys started asking questions about it.
six months and got hotter and
(:{ otter ~
It went for about
Local political meetings in Boone
I began to
be described in very profane, vulgar terms, because election was coming up that fall.
They were having problems in the party.
They party in power then was my party.
I'm
a Democrat. · All of a sudden , they had a boil on their backside. and they didn't know
what to do about it.
They would come to see me and they would beg and they would
whine and they wo.l!l.ld cry and they would appeal.
date me.
Then they would threaten and intimi-
For me to set down and hush forget it, put out a press release, everything
was fine, that I was wrong and I apologize.
That there's no money and I was a l ei: tle
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overboard in expecting them to spend it and all this .
Well, my reply would be to open
the door and invite them outside and say get the hell out here . I am right and I ' m not
quitting .
My people are not going to quit and that's exactly what happened so it went
on until one day a news reporter called a friend of mine here in Raleigh and said that
he was going to question the governor about it.
I came in here, called the governor's
office, talked to one of his aides, and I said, "I don't like to put the gov ernor in an
awkward spot.
Our problem is when I communicate with him, I get my letter back with
a letter from him telling me to turn it over to the local officials, anii that he has written
a letter and I'll get a copy of that to this local official.
The local official there
is writing him letters and his refusing to communicate with me
tween us is the bad apple in the barrel.
and this fellow in be-
He's local and he has a lot of interest here.
He's on the take." So, I called his aide and he was really pleased that I would be so
benevolent as to call and give the governor forewarning that he's going to be questioned.
So, he could look, make him.self look good, which I wanted him to do.
I liked him.
He's
a good guy .. and he, you know, I had been at, I had been the guest prayer at the dinner
table at several functions, you know.
I made his acquaintance.
him than I was.
You ask to have the invocation and that's where
That was all set up by a friend of mine who was closer to
He would do this as a favor to me just so that I could .. . .
Q: Yes, I know.
Q:
..• be there and it didn't help my, didn't hurt my stock any to be seen sitting at the
head tabJ..e woth the governor. The governor got the message and he told one of his
aides, get me some word on this, get me some information.
called and said that we were and were forewarned.
This gut
Let ' s be ready.
somebody
So, the guy got
up and he asked a question, the fellow called me, he didn't know the governor would
be forewarned.
The governor didn't know I'd been called by the fe llow that was going
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ask the question.
When he passed the word down to get some information, they
called this guy over here and he made up a big tale about me and when the question
came
the governor reached over off camera and got a little piece of paper and read
a statement which made him very angry, because the statement was not true , and the
information was that the road had been upgraded and partially paved a year before and
he just, you know, then he put the note down and he went into a tirade about, you know.
what in the world's this mountain preacher and this bunch of yokels wanted.
He said,
it sounded evidently their fixing to run for office this fall and then trying to get their
name in the paper.
You know, he made a couple of remarks that weren't really, they
were a little uncalled for for a governor.
Well, what he didn't know was the press
releases had gone out a couple of days before the photographs.
spring rain on that road.
doors wouldn't open.
One picture of a school bus up ,to the doors, so deep the
Right in front of the church.
graph of my four wheel drive up to the park lights.
chains
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them.
One more blast of a
Another big four column photoWith all four wheels spinning with
This was in the spring now. In May.
The next morning just like a
deck of card was a whole fan of state and out-of-state newspapers.
Paul Harvey picked
up on page two out of Portland, Oregon, and we started getting money from PortJ?and
and all over the country.
Got a contribution from Nova Scotia and one from Columbia,
South America.
The governor picked up the phone and said somebody lied to me and
I want his head
About a week later I got a nice letter, not to me, but to this friend
af mme here.
He wouldn't send it directly t o me, but he wrote the letter and told him
to inform me that that morning he had signed an executive order to allocate twentyfive thousand dollars to repair this road.
An executive order that the work begin
immediately and be finished before the first snow.
A little complimentary note at
the bottom, to me, saying he, through this other fellow, saying that he was glad that
I persevered and brought the needs of his constituents in this area to his personal
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attention.
He was sorry for the misunderstanding that we had and hoped that the
road would be a big help to the community.
I never answered his lette r.
Q: He went his way.
A: So, that's one of the things, but now what came out that was again this Lutheran
orientation to getting an issue.
that.
Was a lot of people in the community against me after
I think it was because of anxiety that I created.
I became, in a way, it made
me a celebrity, you know, people, and I was always in the paper.
stantly there.
It was a lot of mud slung back and forth.
It was just con-
We tried to stay abowe that.
The mud that was slung on me some of it stuck, because I would not repudiate it.
People would ask me, you know, is this true? Was I in a racket or was I, you know .
cheating the church or had I stolen anything or was I in real estate up there and that
kind of stuff.
I'd just say,' "We 're going to build a road. I promised the people we'd
ha ve a road by fall and we're going to gave it." I'd just walk away.
know, when you start defending yourself you look too guilty.
our own church, some of them, got a little jumpy with me.
I felt like, yo-q;
Then pepple, even in
It's been five years.
They got to see a side of me that they didn't know a pastor would have.
their pastor.
That side was when my horns show, they really show.
Especially
When I go for
a guy, I go for his throat.
Q: But they could see down the road.
A: Yes, they could use the road .
Q: Yes, they could use the road.
A: AfteT a while they get used to the road and they begin to think that it's always
been there.
It's theirs, not mine, it's theirs.
I live on the highway.
Now, of course ,
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I have to drive on that road to get to my chur ch, but what happened is they saw a
vicious side of me.
They saw me go for a couple of commissioners' and h ighway
engineers' throats and I got blood.
What happened with people, of course. I'm a
psychologist and a counselor, is that they think, Gosh
if I ever oppose him in the
church and a few of them had opposed in church, we had differences of opinions, in
the church about programs or building or whatever.
going to do to me when I stand up to him?
11
They began to say. "What's he
It fl.ashed their thrust level out the wi n-
dow and raised this anxiety.
Q: Well, there must be ways of allaying that.
A: There is .
years.
Keeping your head down and your mouth shut for abru t five or six
Just, you know, be kind, show them that eventually let them get the idea that
he helped us build a road because he's kind and not because he's mean.
at.
I had my mail box dynamited.
children, a l:We skunk .
in the morning.
I had a skunk thrown in the house with my wife and
I dro ve off to go to an emergency at the hospital about two
Somebody jerked the
So the dog and the skunk fought.
gar ~ge
door down and I had a dog down there.
All over the side of my new car.
came on and blew the skunk odor all o ver the house .
cLJthes.
ignored it.
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The furnace
It got in our food and all our
V didn't even report it 'til six or eight months later.
ve
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I got shot
Just, you know,
We got sick from the odor and I was a little worried about '.i:m ving to go
out nights to meet emergencies with my family here .
there's the gun and the r e's the bearload.
I just told my wife, :I said,
You hear a noise and it, and it's not
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APE 2
his is an intervi ew with Larry Campbell in his home .
The interview i s mad e
by Br enda Hicks wit h the Oral H
istory Project at Appalachian State University.
A:
W would take a hundred and fifty miles of tape and you couldn ' t get it all .
e
Q
:
I know .
A:
On it •••••
Qt
So I just decide •••••
As
••• the church.
Maybe without having anyt ing to look
thing maybe w 1vc cover ed enou h abou ••• •
t or any notes or any-
th, t eolo i cal poi nts of view and i f
you start development of churches and it s hows some advantages and disadvantages
of each other and of course , my point of view is colored .
proud of it .
I can talk about it and, like this
n an interview or a general
conversation or I can write you a theological dissertation .
you the difference in how people progress .
I 'm Lutheran and I 'm
You know that shows
To your less progressive communities
in the mountains , to conclude about the church, your less progressive areas and
canmunities in the mountains , are the ones where you will not find an evangelical
point of view, religious point of view .
Q:
Well, I wonder if I understand exactly what evangelical means .
It might be
good just to say what you mean just for the tape .
A:
Well, an evangelical point of view ia one where God is the prime mover , as I
said bef ore.
Q:
Okay, and you said that part of it .
A:
An evangelical point of view looks at the world .
This world . Man ' s predica-
ment as one redeemed by God, and in constant need of change and of redemption .
Whereas , your fundamentalist point of view is strictly a soul- saving orientation.
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That we 1re to be saved .from this wottld for the next one .
our only hope .
This is an evangelical theology so sure, but that 1 s promise .
That ' s the promise .
be redeemed .
That the next world is
Ood 1s always kept his premises .
This is the world that must
This is the world that is redeemed in Jesus Christ and that God de -
cided to cane .
Q:
Okay.
I did understand that was happening .
I 1ve always misunderstood evan-
gelism as being proselytism and like , g0ing out and winning •••• souls and adding
to the number of members of your congregation, but not necessarily doing anything
to improve •••• living conditions
A:
Notice the differnece in words .
you 1re talking about .
Evangelical is one, evangelistic is what
When you listen to that tape you can tell that noise is
me lighting my pipe .
Q:
Yes .
A:
Lutherans are evangelistic in a way.
evangelical rather than fundamentalist .
thin~s
But , the theologi cal orientation is
Of course, there ' s a lot of other
about the f'undamentalist point of view the strict literal interpretation
of the Bible .
It would be totally asinine to expect a person without my back-
ground in scriptual exegesis and analysis and understanding to sit down for just,
you know, a very limitied inlightenment and education ••• to sit down and read with
the same analytical understanding of what the scripture is trying to say.
Now,
that doesn 1t mean-- I would never pre-emPt the Holy Spirit · and say He c:ould not
speak to that individual in anyway he wants to as he reads the Bible .
But, as
far as understanding what he ' s reading, in the truest analytical sense, I'd have
a great advantage over him .
Everybody lmows that .
So , therefore, it 1 s my job
as a preacher , and as a teacher and evangelist, to use my advantage to enlighten
people to what the Bible says and what is means as they apply it ot every day
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Also to the political and economic and social issues that they have to face when
they get up and go out each morning.
That's why I'm here.
If I can motivate
them to stop excepting this world as a kind of a punishment, a lost sinful sojourn that ' s full of suffering, death, and separation and pain that we have to
go through before we can be redeemed into the next world.
Got to be redeemed now,
we've got to be stopping war now, we gotta stop pain now., we ' ve got to stop stealing whatever kind of form that steal ng takes, whether it's slipping in a man's
home at night and swiping his pocketbook or his cow, or his car or whether it's
stealing through the system.
The white collar stealing.
stealing and cheating that goes on.
to sit by and not stop it now.
The political industrial
It's got to be stopped now.
It ' s unchristain
Say this is a wicked, wicked world and we've got
to stay out of it, stay away from it, no world and no guitars , no beer, no women,
no cards , no laughter, no joy, no .. onothing except go to church, make a decision
for Christ and wait on the death angel to come for me .
a denial of the grace of God .
I can 't do that .
That's
The grace of God is big enough, and powerful enough
to walk i n and shake this world right now . We ' ve got to do that .
we ' re lettingoo •we're not being good evangelist and proselytes .
proselyte anybody fran anybody el.Be's church .
side .. a.fran without the church .
Otherwise ,
I dcn 1t want to
I want to proselyte them from out-
Into mine or anybody ' s church , if they ' ll really
and truly find the Lord and then come out so set afire that they ' ll walk up to a
senator or a governor or engineer or a lawyer or a businessman or anything, and
say, "You 're wrong . 11
That ' s contrary to what God says we must do .
So, I 'm go-
ing to take you on. 11
So much for that unless you have another questi on on the
church.
Q:
No, that's good .
A:
f
ou mentioned that you would like to get into this mobile home phenomena for
just a little bit .
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Q:
Yeso
A:
You know the best way to look at .it is that there are t wo or three facts
about a mobile home .
They' re not permanent .
and they ' re not emotionally permanent .
camper , in a way, emotionally.
In reality they ' re not permanent
In other words , they ' re l.i.ke a monstrous
They have wheels and frames under , they have a
hitch on the front where you can hook it to a tow vechicle and
rid of it .
mo~e
it.
You get
You ' ll see occasionally, you ' ll drive by a place where last year there
was a big mobile home , this year you see the mobil e
there ' s a permenent .
That ' s r are .
1
s been towed away and
Most of the time you go by where last year
there was a mobile home and you come back and you see there ' s a rundown mobile
home .
Maybe the old one is gone and a new larger mobile h6Jne with one more bed-
room for that new youngun that came in the spring .
Q:
Do you remember they •••when the people first started seeing them aronnd here .
I mean just plain old history about them might be a good way to orient .
A:
Well, not really.
I cou2dn 1 t say for sure .
to see them more and more .
gan to see them aromd
the war babies .
I have to tell you when I began
I began to see them, what
i~
this
75, 65, 55.
1950 ro 55. Along about then , when people ahout my age,
I 'm not a war baby.
I ' ve got f i 'fte en years on t he war babies , .
but I was getting my education along with some of the war babi es .
behind .
I be -
I was a little
When people my age and much younger like my a ge and ten years younger ,
who did not do as I did , which was have the great advantage of somebody making
them go on and get t hat education, began to get married .
Now , before the war ,
when there was little money here , mobi le homes are just like resort developments .
They show up where the money is .
In an area where there ' s industry and where
there are young people who are making money and where there ' s a lack of housing .
A lack of adequate housing .
Then all of a sudden, bang, you've got these stupid
little metal toadstools sitting around everywhere with people living in them .
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If I sound pretty hostile towards them it ' s for several reasons .
Not just their
looks and not just the financial disadvantage it puts young people or old people
at, but because I 'm a fire chief and a North Carolina State Fire Fighter Association member..
If I didn 1 t like you and I wanted to really put your life in jeop-
ardy, I 1 d move you into a mobile home .
trap .
They' re just a hot- box .
They ' re a death
Now they •re requiring a lot of other safety features being built into ' em .
You lalow, what difference does it make w
hether you have thirty seconds or sixty
seconds to get out of one .
Be cause that ' s about the difference .
you ' ve got a minute to ~t out i f it catches fire .
If one unsafe
They ' re put together with glue
and under heat , glue emits f\unes that are explosive and toxic and deadly.
When
one gets hot you.' re dead unless you •••
Q:
From the inhalation?
A:
Yeah .
Q:
Don 1t they have two exits 'l
A:
Yes , but in super heated air with toxic , noxious fumes , unless you really
So much for that .
know what to do , unless you really get the jump on it when you maybe smell a
little smoke and you just get out instead of hunting for it .
It doesn ' t make any difference .
Just get out .
When you get one breath of that super-heated
noxious i\unes , that comes from any fire , not just a mobile home .
you ' re going to live twenty seconds .
You ' re dead .
O breath and
ne
I ' d say along about nineteen
f i fty ••• five or somewhere along there , mobile himes began to show up .
already in other parts of the country.
began to come here .
They wer e
I know, beca se i saw them there .
They
One reason you didn ' t see too many here was because the roads
were so darn crooked you couldn ' t pull them through here , without tear.ing them up .
Q:
The natural protective instinct of the mountains .
As Y .
es
That ' s right and we wiped that out didn ' t we .
I didn ' t take but a few
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super highways and now you can get these big twelve foot wide jobs in here .
almost hit me here this morning as I was pulling off the road .
that car, I wish he had hit it .
(Laughter)
One
I 'm trying to sell
I ' d have sent him a nice bill and ••
Of course , that ' s a foreigh made car and if he had hit it, it would ' ve destroyed
d ' ve, he would have wi p~d it out .
his mo bile home o An American
They
couldn ' t get the big ones in here and a few little ones were here and there , but
not many.
The roads improved and they could get them in.
Suddenly, there was a
generat ion of young people who weren't ready to follow the traditional route to
finding a home .
Before t he war, and up to I ' d say till after the war a few years .
If you lived here in the mountains and along came a fellow and you 1ve decided to
get hitched to him, after however long a courtship it took you to make up yotll'
mind .
Usually it was his courtship you know, he decided he wanted him a woman .
You were about ready to decide that to be s mebody ' s woman .
you livel
He bad seasonal work .
An Agr· -busines •
part-time .or he could do carpenter work
Maybe he wo-J.ld drive a truck
other hander
part- time , but where did he f am if he was young?
Okay, where would
to~
hanc:Llabor and fanned
He farmed his Dad ' s place .
His Grandpa 's place, or rented some of his neighbor ' s and did some tenant farming .
You did the same thing.
You know, you may not exactly be a fann family,
but you- it would be very deeply rooted in the ground , you raised most of what you
ate including yotll' meat .
Even though one or more of your parents worked some-
where else part-time, but it ' s doubtful .
You would probably be a famero
Unless
you could drive a truck or saw lumber .
This kind of thing .
You lived with your Mama and Daddy.
chever family had the biggest home and
d:fdn 1 t mind having that extra belly at the table .
Where would you live?
Especially, if that fellow had
that extra belly or that girl that had that extra belly at the table could work .
There wa
a need for the whatever they could do around the place .
You lived
a year or so with one set of parents and then decided to move over with the otherso
That would happen a lot of times , because there would be a little friction in the
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home .
bigger .
You would live there until all of a sudden , your belly started getting
Then they ' d realize ther ' s a little one on the way.
Wel l , now, that
usually didn 1t change things too much , maybe have to tighten up one of the rooms,
you know , put a little paper on the wall and make it a little warmer for that
little fellow .
Because we always a ssume that each generation
little nwre tenderfooted than the last .
that~•.s
born is a
If my kids had to live in a house llie
a couple I had to live in when I was their age , they would freeze to death .
of consumption or somethin£ .
Die
I ' ve woke up several times in a couple of the old
houses where my grandparents and my parents liv d , where it came a blowing snowstorm with just a little fly snow the night before and there would be long fingers
of snow where it had blown in around the windows or the cracks in the :hogs or the
wallboards , be long fingers of snow all the way across the bed or under the bed .
My shoes would be full a lot of times , be full of snow .
l t would be so darn cold
that it wouldn ' t melt a.'ld it would stick to my shoe , pick up and pour it out like
flo~ .
You could see cracks ·through the floor , lot of times see the dogs laYi.ng
under the house .
Of course , through the cracks where the fleas would get through
if you didn ' t keep the dogs clean .
That ' s where you would live .
there and for all you know maybe , a little while longer .
You would live
Granny and Grandpa were
gettling old , it ' s a possibility that you were going to get that place .
the house you could fix it up and you could live there .
At least
If they weren ' t too old
and you were the third or fourth generation still living in one of the other or
both clans , as time goes by maybe there comes antother one , you know 9
You have
to announce Johnnt ' s going to have a little brother or little sister .
Then you
and your husband are going to start negotiation with one set of parents for a
little piece of land that you can work out slowly with work and pay a little on
it with money and that all pitch in together and you could begt n to think in terms
of putting a little house on it .
It uouldn 1t be much of a house , but if you coul d
do without it you damn well wouldn ' t live in one like that nowa da ys . You would have
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been mighty proud of it back then .
It was yours .
One of the dreams that you
had done without until you were thirty five , maybe thirty eight years old , that
young people just can ' t do without now past twenty two or three .
dreams is suddenly about to be fulfilled .
One of your
A little flower garden, a back porch
where you could set your washing machine , if you· got any water in the house .
little garden, a little fence around it, a p
you get up in the morning and this is home .
A
e for the·_. younguns to play and
It may not be much, but it ' s hane .
Just like today, it ' s going to cost you, take a lot of hard work to bUild it,
paint it, keep it up , but since it waan ' t much to start with you don ' t pay quite
as much attention to making it look like scmething out of a magazine as people
think ycu have to do today.
and says ,
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You read magazines .
O day the old boy comes home
ne
Look what I got in the back of the truck . "
it ' s a teleVision .
You go out and look and
Roads upen up and y.cru. can get mail and
~t
a chance to sub-
scribe to a magazine , ycu know, telling you how to fix yourself up a little better .
How to decorate your house a little better .
On ... every page there ' s a picture of
a mobile hane , the interior furniture display or a kitchen .
looking at that .
Your kids grow up
Of course , you know, you ' re liVing back before the war , but
your kids are growing up and they ' re looking at those pictures .
of the war and a little later they ' ll look at the television.
here ' s one seventeen to nineteen year old .
or he '-s got him a girl .
no house .
Towards the end
Before you know it
She comes in and she ' s got her a man,
They want to get married .
Start looking arrund .
The one you ' ve built ' s not quite big enough .
There ' s
It ' s just not kosher
anymore to live with mam and daddy, becuase they, you know , maybe been spending
a little time tiving together anyway.
live with mama and daddy.
You don ' t know .
So , it 1 s not knsher to
They start looking around and they go to the savings
and loan, or they go to the contractor .
That little house that you and his dadd
said would cost eight thousand dollars is probably twenty thousand now .
know, you got that off of your daddy.
You
So , t hey start looking and they go to the
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savings and loan and the bank and they get you, they hear figures like forty,
fifty, sixty thousand dollars.
thousand dollars, if he's lucky.
What does he make a year?
Eight thousand, nine
She makes maybe five or six, possibility they
might lose those jobs , economy's not too goodo
Back a few years ago when it was
booming, still a possibility -they ' d lose it, especially if they work in a resort.
Q:
Yes, or construction .
A:
O
kay.
They drive down to G
ranite Falls to Fin German's or down to W
ilkesboro
to Oa.kwoods or over here around Boone to some of the shysters.
sell you one in a minute .
ninety dollars down .
G. c . Green will
Y go over there and it ' s only three hundred and
ou
Eighteen, twenty, twenty-two year mortgage.
O
nly fifty
nine dollars for three bedrooms and it ' s twelve feet wide and you walk in it .
It looks like all those things you saw on television and that beatiful furniture .
All of a sudden, you 're in euphoria .
home.
You're living in a villa .
You've got this beautiful, mediterranean
You lmow, it's got archways and it ' s got false
panels, and it ' s got closets and it's got carpets up to your tail .
these beautiful long drapes and it smells good .
everything built in.
It ' s got
It's got a modern kitchen with
The walli are only two and an eighth of an inch thick .
can take your fist and knock a hole
throu~h
any door in it.
You
Most of them are on
plastic or nylon rollers and when you walk through it, you lmow, you don't notice
that it swayi a little bit .
Y don 1 t lmow that it's dangerous in a storm.
ou
dangerous under heavy snow .
That it's mostl,y metal and if a short in the electri-
It ' s
cal system occurs it could ki l l you when you stand on the wet ground and touch it .
If i t catches fire, it's going to get hotter quicker than any ki.nd of structure
you can build, be cause it' s built like a long tube, it'll make a draft just like
a chimney.
They don't tell you all that.
Here 1s a young couple and thi s is the
finest home they ' ve ever seen and they can pull it anywhere they want it .
can find them a little lot and sock it in there .
They
All they need is to dig a water
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line, get sane power brought in and put in a septic tank .
zoning problems , and they ' d not until a year or so ago .
If they don ' t run into
So , here you are .
The
banking institutions say this couple don't have much money, they're going to have
to pay a long time and on unpaid balance per interest.
They don't know it but
we ' re fixing to sell them a fifty- nine hundred dollar house trailer for nineteen
thouseand dollars over the years .
It ' s about what it figures out by the time
they repair it, move it, put in a septic system, 'keep it f'ran leaking, replacing
the floors or replacing th
interest ov r th
ye
s.
hatever and all th .
over the years .
The appoiances in it are goi ug to go bad , ju;st like all
appliances do and they ' re seoond rate appliances to begin with .
brand is on there.
Of course, the
I don ' t care whose
When a big company like G. E. or Whirlpool ' s making appliances
on a contract for a half two hundred thousand of them for a mobile hane ·building
factory they going to give them cheap junk .
It ' s that simple .
Q:
W could just about be f inished i f you want •••
As
Okay, t ell him .iust a mcaemt .
it' s easy-.
So this this is where your mobile hane is, but
It's attainable .
Q:
It seems easier f or• o••
As
It ' s attainable .
Well, the mon
y payment, this thing that , this mental dis-
ease that we have in America, this monthly payment is attainable .
what happens if I get my leg br oke or if I die .
To hell with
They going to sell me sane
insurance that ' ll pay for six months if I can ' t work or they ' ll pay it all off if
I die .
That ' s going to cost me an extra seven or eight dollars a month .
as I can reach it p.er month .
I ' ve gone through it myse.a.r, I know ..
s on I 'm getting rid of all my automobiles , except one .
don •t want aJ'l3?1lore American made cars .
to sell .
As long
That ' s the r ea-
I 1m selling them out.
I
I 1m tired of driving vehicles that &re made
I want one that ' s made to drive .
You know, I want quality instead of
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looks .
I 'm tired of driving sanething t hat nobody can fix , nobody wants .
got all the conveniences of a seven forty seven .
I can afford per month .
It ' s
It won ' t 'f!Ven roll at the price
I ' ve got to do my work and I 1m tired of trying to do my
work when my machinery ·won 't work .
So , I just got rid of that .
Some countries
make cachinery that is smaller , more safel y constructed , that ' ll last, because
they ' ve built in countri es where you don' t have a lot of notural resources , a lot
of energy, or a lot of room to •••• for roads.
I j ust read somewhere I think in a
W
inston paper t!iis morning where a fellow said ,
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I wonder what we' re gonna do first .
Are we going to complete l y pave the world or run out of
first?"
The mobile hime is the same way, y
we stan
the monthly payment .
Can
W started to get into
e
We went around and al. 11ost signed a con1
Then we frund a beartiful ll ttle apartment right near
the campus when I was in school in Columbia .
price we could afford .
Which will happen
It ' s all a part of this .
If you lived at any time.
mobile homes when we were first married .
tract on a couple of them .
lmow .
as'l
A little two story apartment at a
Much cheaper than the payments on a mobile home .
we were ready to graduate , we knew that we had housing .
Then
We wouldn't get our rent
back , of course , but you don ' t get your rent back out of a mobile hane .
A ten
thrusand dollar mobile home depreciates about thirty- five hundred dollars the
first twelve months .
Y
ou're not going to pay thirty- five hundred dollars on it.
So your long peri:M where you can ' t sell it became you owe more on it, than it's
wortli..
Unless you can find someplace e lse to live and kee
equal to more than that m.onthlyr payment .
it and rent it for
Rent it to sane other idiot.
happens but we almost got into a mobile home .
This
Then we be an to realize we 1d have
to go through the problems of t r ying to sell it , we could pay out a lot of interest money.
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would have to insure it ourselves .
We would have to just, it ' s
a lot easier to tell a landlord, " Listen, I 've been sick .
I didn ' t work she worked .
I went to school .
Savings and loan won ' t do that .
do that .
You pay or it 1s gone .
My wife's out of work. "
You could pay the rent later.
A bank won 't do that .
The finance companies won ' t
Unless you have a second mortgage and then you
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mu.st pay it by he end of the month plus interest and penalties .
So the mo ile
heme industry has , it and the financial institut ions are very much in cahoots .
They:'~e
the ones that really take these people for a ride .
not durable , but they ' re the only housing that you can get .
They ' re ugly, unsafe,
You tell me a yO\mg
couple s t arting out, who can buy or build or even afford rent now .
mount
, instead f renting to you, if you
i ng to you
a young couple , in:itead of rent-
_ say a hundred and fifty doll s a month, I c
on a little two bedroom house.
end renting it to tourists .
t fifty five dollars
I can get fifty-five dollars for a three dp.y week-
I can get two hundred dollars a week , not a month,
a week out of it, renting it to the tourists .
So , I 'm not going to rent it to you.
it.
r
Here in the
Just put cheap junk in it and rent
I 'm going rent it to the tourists .
So , you see , if you wnat to live around here you ' re going to have to but a mobile
home .
Q:
Thank you Mr . Campbell
A:
You 're welcane .
I wish we had more time .
Let me catch this phone .
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In 1973, representatives from Appalachian State University (ASU) began the process of collecting interviews from Watauga, Avery, Ashe, and Caldwell county citizens to learn about their respective lives and gather stories. From the outset of the project, the interviewers knew that they were reaching out to the “last generation of Appalachian residents to reach maturity before the advent of radio, the last generation to maintain an oral tradition.” The goal was to create a wealth of data for historians, folklorists, musicians, sociologists, and anthropologists interested in the Appalachian Region.
The project was known as the “Appalachian Oral History Project” (AOHP), and developed in a consortium with Alice Lloyd College and Lees Junior College (now Hazard County Community College) both in Kentucky, Emory and Henry College in Virginia, and ASU. Predominately funded through the National Endowment for the Humanities, the four schools by 1977 had amassed approximately 3,000 interviews. Each institution had its own director and staff. Most of the interviewers were students.
Outgrowths of the project included the Mountain Memories newsletter that shared the stories collected, an advisory council, a Union Catalog, photographs collected, transcripts on microfilm, and the book Our Appalachia. Out of the 3,000 interviews between the three schools, only 663 transcripts were selected to be microfilmed. In 1978, two reels of microfilm were made available with 96 transcripts contributed by ASU.
An annotated index referred to as The Appalachian Oral History Project Union Catalog was created to accompany the microfilm. The catalog is broken down into five sections starting with a subject topic index such as Civilian Conservation Corps, Coal Camps, Churches, etc. The next four sections introduced the interviewees by respective school. There was an attempt to include basic biographic information such as date of birth, location, interviewer name, length of interview, and subjects discussed. However, this information was not always consistent per school.
This online project features clips from the interviews, complete transcripts, and photographs. The quality and consistency of the interviews vary due to the fact that they were done largely by students. Most of the photos are missing dates and identifying information.
Contributor
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Collection 111. Appalachian Oral History Project Records, 1965-1989
Date
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1965-1989
Oral History
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Interviewer
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Brenda Hicks
Interviewee
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Campbell, Larry
Number of pages
28 pages
Date digitized
9/18/2014
File size
18.5MB
Checksum
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098cc60ff761e38f24ef8d71a53765d7
Scanned by
Tony Grady
Equipment
Epson Expression 10000 XL
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Copyright for the interviews on the Appalachian State University Oral History Collection site is held by Appalachian State University. The interviews are available for free personal; non-commercial; and educational use; provided that proper citation is used (e.g. Appalachian State Collection 111. Appalachian Oral History Project Records; 1965-1989; W.L. Eury Appalachian Collection; Special Collections; Appalachian State University; Boone; NC). Any commercial use of the materials; without the written permission of the Appalachian State University; is strictly prohibited.
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AC.111 Appalachian Oral History Project Records; 1965 - 1989
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111_tape333_LarryCampbell_transcript_M
Title
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Interview with Larry Campbell
Language
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English
English
Type
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Document
Creator
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Hicks, Brenda
Campbell, Larry
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<a title="Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews, 1965-1989" href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/195" target="_blank">Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews, 1965-1989</a>
Subject
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Campbell, Larry--Interviews
Holy Communion Lutheran Church (Banner Elk, N.C.)
Avery County (N.C.)--Politics and government--20th century
Mobile home living--North Carolina, Western
Evangelicalism--North Carolina, Western
Description
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Reverend Larry Campbell discusses local music and its origins, his battle to have a road built for his church, the Holy Communion Lutheran Church, and the dangers of living in a mobile home.
banjo
Brush Arbor
Brush Arbor camp meetings
Clark's Creek Road
Evangelicalism
fiddles
folk dance
folk music
Fontana Village
glue grass
gospel
guitar
Irish music
Larry Campbell
Lutheran Church
mobile homes
music
North Carolina State Fire Fighter Association
road paving
Scots music
Union Grove